Pakistani embassy :

December 1, 2003, in connection with the NWIP meeting in Pakistan late November 2003, a delegation of four NLA members, two physicians, Kjersti Johnsrud and Kirsten Osen, and two medical students, Rune Dahl and Rizwan Hussain (originally from Pakistan), met with ambassador Shahbaz in the Pakistani embassy in Oslo. The two students had participated in the dialogue and NWIP meetings in London early November, while two other NLA students, Christin Ormhaug and Trygve Ottersen, were on their way back home from the NWIP meeting in Pakistan . Ambassador Shahbaz, who has worked for many years in the Conference on Disarmament in Geneva , is an expert in nuclear weapons issues. He appeared genuinely interested in our topic which included the then new cease-fire between Pakistan and India , Olympic Truce, Pakistan nuclear policy, and human security with reference to SLMK's excellent publication " Instead of Nuclear Weapons " which we handed over to him.

February 25, 2004 , in connection with the dialogue seminar in Islamabad February 26 and 27, a delegation of three NLA members, peace researcher Christin Ormhaug, medical student Rune Dahl and physician Kirsten Osen, again visited ambassador Shahbaz and his deputy S.A. Khan in the Pakistani embassy. This time Christin reported from her personal experiences at the NWIP meeting in Pakistan in November 2003, which proved to be of great interest to the ambassador, while Rune referred from the conference in Washington DC “ Three minutes to midnight ” in January 2004 where he participated. We had an open and lively discussion for 1,5 hour with focus on the op-ed by ElBaradei in New York Times 12.1.04, Saving ourselves from self-destruction , which we handed over to him. We discussed NPT and the risk of proliferation, and pointed to the idea that Pakistan and India may be in a unique position to press for general nuclear disarmament: They could accede to the NPT as non-nuclear weapon states on the condition that article VI be implemented by all. The ambassador, however, explained how the nuclear weapons have served to stabilize the relationship between Pakistan and India . Pakistan evidently regards nuclear deterrence as vital to its existence. We also mentioned the IPPNW world congress in Beijing in September with the workshop: Nuclear weapons proliferation in South Asia : The impact of nuclear war on medical infrastructure and the health effects of nuclear weapons testing and production .

Indian embassy:

March 2, 2004, in connection with the dialogue seminar in Dehli February 29 to March 2, 2004 , a delegation of three NLA members, medical student Ingebjørg Myhre and two physicians Kjersti Johnsrud and Kirsten Osen, visited the Indian embassy. Ambassador Gopalkrishna Gandhi is grandson of Mahátma Gandhi, and a wonderful person. We handed over to him “ Instead of Nuclear Weapons ” and ElBaradei's op-ed in New York Times 12.1.04, Saving ourselves from self-destruction. We had an open discussion where we focused on the effect of nuclear weapons, nuclear war by accident, dealert, proliferation and NWIP. The ambassador was interested in hearing about the student activities, but in his opinion India cannot give up its nuclear option. Although he agreed to the danger of nuclear weapons and proliferation, he was not able to see any way out of the present dependence on nuclear deterrence against Pakistan and China . Unfortunately, we were not able to really help him.